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Here’s your starter for 10.  How many times during a typical year has the east wind blown above 5 knots between lunchtime Saturday and lunchtime Sunday?  

The question is of more than quiz trivia interest to people in South East London because it is the only time many of them get a break from aircraft noise.  

Here’s how it works:

West Wind: Planes landing at Heathrow; can be over 40 an hour

East Wind:  Usually no Heathrow planes, but London City aircraft land in their concentrated corridor over swathes of SE London

Light East Wind:  Heathrow planes still landing (because they only switch when the wind gets above about 5 knots) but City planes are also landing (because they switch immediately wind direction changes). Total can be over 50 planes an hour.

East wind above 5 knots Sat lunch – Sun lunch:  No planes!  Heathrow aircraft are landing over Windsor; and London City is shut.

Last year because of the beast from the east and its summer cousin we saw a lot of east wind but in a typical year it just blows about 30% of the time.  How often is it over 5 decibels?  I’m not sure.  And how often is it over 5 decibels between Saturday lunchtime and Sunday lunchtime?  Even less. But that is the only time many in SE London get a break from the noise.

Heathrow and London City have started talking.  When Heathrow introduces its new flight paths after 2025, there is the opportunity to provide respite through the introduction of multiple rotating flights (particularly if London City will play ball and add to its current single concentrated flight path).  In the short term HACAN is speaking with both the airports and NATS to look at what could be done to ease matters.

A bonus mark to those of you who added Christmas Day:  City Airport is closed and an east wind above about 5 knots means Heathrow planes land over Windsor. 

Here’s your starter for 10.  How many times during a typical year has the east wind blown above 5 knots between lunchtime Saturday and lunchtime Sunday?  

The question is of more than quiz trivia interest to people in South East London because it is the only time many of them get a break from aircraft noise.  

Here’s how it works:

West Wind: Planes landing at Heathrow; can be over 40 an hour

East Wind:  Usually no Heathrow planes, but London City aircraft land in their concentrated corridor over swathes of SE London

Light East Wind:  Heathrow planes still landing (because they only switch when the wind gets above about 5 knots) but City planes are also landing (because they switch immediately wind direction changes). Total can be over 50 planes an hour.

East wind above 5 knots Sat lunch – Sun lunch:  No planes!  Heathrow aircraft are landing over Windsor; and London City is shut.

Last year because of the beast from the east and its summer cousin we saw a lot of east wind but in a typical year it just blows about 30% of the time.  How often is it over 5 decibels?  I’m not sure.  And how often is it over 5 decibels between Saturday lunch time and Sunday lunchtime?  Even less. But that is the only time many in SE London get a break from the noise.

Heathrow and London City have started talking.  When Heathrow introduces its new flight paths after 2025, there is the opportunity to provide respite through the introduction of multiple rotating flights (particularly if London City will play ball and remove its current single concentrated flight path).  In the shorter term HACAN is speaking with both the airports and NATS to look at what could be done to ease the situation.

A bonus mark to those of you who added Christmas Day:  City Airport is closed and an east wind above about 5 knots means Heathrow planes land over Windsor. 

There is no doubt that the Civil Aviation Authority’s backing last month of London City’s concentrated flight paths was a huge blow to very many people.  

But I suspect that is not the end of the matter.  There may be renewed pressure on London City to offer some respite.  

The pressure could come from three directions:

Local discontent will not go away.  And may intensify as thousands more homes are built under or close to the flight path in East London over the next few years.  These homes may be well-insulated and many of the newcomers will have some awareness that they will get aircraft noise.  However, It is expected that, London City could come to impact at least 74,000 people which would mean it would overfly more people in the UK than any airport except Heathrow and Manchester and almost twice as many as Brussels or Schiphol.  Will they all really keep quiet if they get no predicable break from the noise?

Flight paths at airports across London and the South East will be altered.  Before Christmas NATS, the air traffic controllers, will publish a major report looking at how the flight paths changes at the different airports can mesh together.  It is probable that NATS will not expect to see changes to London City’s flight paths but the changes to the airports’ flight paths are so fundamental that nothing is guaranteed.

Heathrow is committed to introducing respite.  Heathrow’s new flight paths are not expected to come in before 2025 (when a third runway would open if it is given final permission) but Heathrow flight paths which were rotated to give people respite would highlight just what a poor deal people were getting from London City.

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